1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,040 Once the stuff of science fiction not anymore 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,960 I do not have an explanation for what this object is but in the land down under 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:24,640 UFO sightings aren't one-off events. They're happening almost daily. I have no idea what this thing is 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,160 Australia and New Zealand 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Isolated countries floating in an ocean of blue are attempting location for first contact 6 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Called a flying saucer called a UFO called a UAP 7 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,480 One thing's for sure is not applying 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Using eyewitness accounts 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:56,800 And expert commentary that was physical evidence now for the first time the southern hemisphere's UFO encounters are under the microscope 10 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Seriously a UFO look is there's something going on that will change what we know about our universe 11 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Australia 1966 the world was changing 12 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,680 And just outside Victoria's state capital Melbourne in a sleepy town called Westall 13 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Up to 200 people lay witness to an astonishing UFO encounter 14 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,920 They were school children their teachers and nearby workers 15 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Their evidence was overwhelming but the attempted cover-up just as extraordinary 16 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:14,880 My name is Shane Ryan and I am the researcher of the 1966 Westall flying saucer incident 17 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:23,440 It was the largest daylight mass witness sighting of a UFO not just in the air but on or near the ground 18 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:30,800 In Australia certainly and possibly in the world 19 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,960 In 2005 20 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,640 Shane Ryan began researching a fictional account of the 1966 Westall incident 21 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:49,600 He soon changed his mind when he discovered not one but dozens of people who recounted the same event 22 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,400 And most had kept what happened that day a secret 23 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,640 When I called them on the phone 24 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,280 They would say 25 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Are you kidding is it do you want me to talk about this story with you now because I haven't talked about this in the 26 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,680 30 years for some of the witnesses they actually said to me 27 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,120 We were told not to talk about it. So they never did 28 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Former Westall high school student Joy Clark who knew she'd be ridiculed if she spoke out 29 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,040 We weren't hysterical. We weren't on drugs and we weren't drunk 30 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:35,520 You know I had that lots of times over the years. I've been people don't what sort of drugs were you on how drunk were you? 31 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,920 I was 12 and a half 32 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,240 Terry peck was another witness who was silenced by the attitudes of the times 33 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Back then, you know, we were a friend of our headmaster and and the teachers it wasn't like it is now at school 34 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 So we sort of basically just accepted that 35 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,440 So what did happen all those years ago? 36 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Strap yourself in because it's a story that needs to be heard to be believed 37 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 This is the spot right here where it landed. Um 38 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:16,320 I came running in from where I do my cross-country run and this was like a little clearing here 39 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 And then it started to take off up into the air 40 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,320 So the whole thing was actually, you know, looking at this thing taking off and looking out in the sky 41 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,320 It was a lot to take in 42 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:33,680 Well, I was at the school in science class and a student had run in she flung the door open 43 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,760 And said mr. Greenwood mr. Greenwood there's flying saucers in the sky these things in the sky 44 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 And of course we all started laughing and giggling and carrying on 45 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:51,360 Anyway, he told us all to come down and then the bell went so we all raced out and yes, there were flying saucers in the sky 46 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,840 All of a sudden the kids all started pointing up in the sky. We saw 47 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,080 three silver objects sort of hovering around and 48 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:06,640 You know turning on this side and then they'd appear somewhere else. They seem to sort of disappear and then appear somewhere else 49 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,840 I was absolutely like Terry transfixed. I just wanted to look 50 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,680 To absorb and watch these things because I just couldn't believe what I was seeing 51 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,440 And they were so quick one minute they were over there next minute 52 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,240 They're over there then they're over the top of the pylons 53 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,440 And they went up and down and zooming and hovering 54 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:35,600 Surprisingly as Australia's smallest mainland state Victoria overrepresents on the country's UFO sighting register 55 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 It could be because of the state's lush pastures 56 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Or its rugged coastline 57 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,280 But one thing is for certain there are more people per square kilometer in Victoria than any other state 58 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,200 So when incidents happen, many people bear witness 59 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,280 Melbourne's Morabbin airport is in a neighboring suburb to Westall 60 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 The locals were familiar with the air traffic that roared above them 61 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,280 But these three craft were silent and nothing like they'd seen before 62 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,200 One of the science teachers at the high school at the time 63 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,680 very vividly recall seeing 64 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,480 five ordinary looking 65 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Cessna like small aircraft coming into view 66 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:32,640 and flying around these flying sources as if they were trying to get closer to them 67 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,320 to observe them 68 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,960 And they buzzed them and they were buzzing around and they'd come and they'd get really close 69 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,960 And the craft would just go straight up in the air and just out of the way 70 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,960 It was like they were playing cat and mouse with them 71 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:50,320 It was just incredible and and this went on for quite about or about 20 minutes or so 72 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,360 Then they all went up in the sky and they disappeared over the back down to here obviously 73 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,920 The three craft disappeared behind a wedge of bushland known as the Grange 74 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Bordering the Grange about a half a mile or one kilometer from Westall school was a market garden 75 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:14,560 My name is Paul Smith and I was a witness to the 1966 Westall incident 76 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,120 On that Wednesday morning 16 year old Paul Smith was in the market garden pulling up carrots 77 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:29,920 When I saw this object in the sky, I didn't just couldn't believe what was happening 78 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:38,480 I had this feeling that someone had a way of projecting a film into the sky 79 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,240 to make it look as if there was something there that wasn't really there 80 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:50,080 because to my way of thinking what was happening couldn't happen 81 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 It wasn't being propelled by anything 82 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,840 It was just sitting there 83 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,680 It was just sitting there 84 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,040 Paul was struck by the UFO's size and color as it hovered 85 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:10,560 The object was at least the size of a large coach that would hold 57 people 86 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,680 And it was shimmering and it was changing its form 87 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:21,760 It was changing colors as it was changing it became a translucent 88 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,080 and kept fading away until there was almost nothing left 89 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:35,920 and then it seemed to lower down and went into the pine trees which is the Grange area 90 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Paul saw the object disappear 91 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Meanwhile at the school an exhilarated young Terry had hopped the school fence 92 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,600 and chased after the UFO's 93 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:51,600 Floating in front of her was one of the three craft 94 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:57,280 You know I could see this big oval round-shaped silver 95 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,280 object in front of me looked like that that was the shape of it 96 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,320 with the bluey purpley lights all around the bottom 97 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,880 really a typical thing of what you would think a flying saucer would look like 98 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 It was probably maybe three meters off the ground 99 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,280 and I could feel heat coming off it 100 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 as if you're standing in front of you know an old-fashioned radiator 101 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,840 and I just stood there transfixed really looking at it 102 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:29,280 and as I did it it lifted up off the ground probably about 15 meters into the air 103 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,000 turned on its side vertically and it just went 104 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,520 swim straight up into the sky and joined these other two 105 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,160 it was so fast it was unbelievable 106 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,520 and then they just appeared to disappear into thin air 107 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:50,560 It was really amazing it left this huge patch around here 108 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:56,480 eight or nine meters in diameter of all burnt swirling grass 109 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,600 not burnt not black but yellow and all flattened 110 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,840 because this grass used to be very long here 111 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Joy had stayed on the school grounds to see if they'd return 112 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 but instead there was another surprise 113 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:17,040 and there were three army jeeps that arrived that lifted up the back 114 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:23,440 and there were men in green uniforms and there were also some men in camouflage 115 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,840 and they were taking notes and talking to each other 116 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,120 and then they stayed there for a few minutes and then they all disappeared 117 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,240 and obviously went I think down to the grange 118 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Paul Smith soon realized his boss at the market hadn't seen it 119 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,240 when the army jeep turned up 120 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,040 these guys from the army came over and spoke to my boss 121 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:50,960 and he told my boss that the school kids had seen a flying saucer 122 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,600 and my boss was laughing so I never said anything to him after that 123 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,200 I wasn't going to get involved in it and let him know that I'd seen it 124 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 then I knew I wasn't the only one 125 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,680 I thought oh good it's not just me 126 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Westall Public School was buzzing with the excitement of what happened 127 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,000 the school was soon the focus of attention 128 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,520 there was all sorts of commotion going on 129 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,840 there was people with uniforms we had men in blue uniforms 130 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,520 who were probably obviously air force we had army 131 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,400 we had police we had men in black 132 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 there are several witnesses who in addition to seeing people in 133 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,440 obvious uniforms like police or military uniforms 134 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:48,560 seeing people coming in suits they described them to me as being like dudes from the government 135 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,640 a special assembly was called and the headmaster issued a stern warning to the school 136 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,800 don't talk about it if you do there will be consequences 137 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,880 Joy was one of several kids who had gathered out the front 138 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:09,280 and did what they weren't supposed to do in terms of what the headmaster had said 139 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,880 and started chatting to the media 140 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:18,240 and when we were out being interviewed I was talking and a policeman had walked up to me 141 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,040 and he put his hand on my left shoulder and he told me to stop talking 142 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,000 and to go back inside the school grounds 143 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:32,560 and then he turned his back on me and he pointed at the cameraman and said 144 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,040 stop filming and go away 145 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,160 the school was swarming with uniforms 146 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,120 the UFO landing site became a restricted area 147 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,440 and officials began door knocking in the neighborhood 148 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,080 so what was the official line given at the time to explain what happened 149 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,520 they said that it was some sort of a weather balloon 150 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,560 which you know I knew was totally untrue 151 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,280 because I've never seen anything even to this day 152 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,320 the F1 jets they have don't move as fast as what this thing moved 153 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 and it certainly wasn't a balloon 154 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,240 respected UFO researcher and scientist Bill Chalker 155 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,680 has investigated what could explain this mass sighting at Westall 156 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 and a weather balloon just doesn't cut it 157 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,560 the highball balloon explanation doesn't fit simply because 158 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,560 it's pretty easy to differentiate between a balloon 159 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,160 that has come down that's got large mass 160 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,600 and an object that seems to be highly structured physical object that 161 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,240 lands takes off then keeps moving backwards and forwards 162 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,240 balloons don't do that 163 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,960 then they changed that story and tried to tell us it was some experiment that 164 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,240 the US were doing over here at the time 165 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 and nothing that could move like this thing maneuvered 166 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,880 there's nothing now that can do that 167 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,800 the weather balloon explanation went down like a lead balloon 168 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,680 at a new version of what happened was given 169 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,800 one of the rare records remaining from that day was a photo of Joy Clark 170 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:10,240 what I have here is a photo of me taken in one of the burnt out circles in 1966 171 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:16,480 and the report which tells me there was a round on flat on the bottom 172 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,960 and round on the top silver disc and that I was very excited 173 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,000 next did these UFOs make another appearance 174 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,480 could they have made contact with a driver on a lonely highway 175 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,520 the headlights of his car were being drawn off to the right hand side 176 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,880 is there a little known twist in the tail to this story 177 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 in the direction of these lights 178 00:14:47,040 --> 00:15:00,000 in 1966 200 witnesses saw three UFOs at West Hall High School 179 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,080 in a quiet community outside Melbourne 180 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,200 they assumed they were the only ones to have seen the three objects 181 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,800 however Shane Ryan uncovered something that came as a complete shock 182 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,520 in the days leading up to the West Hall school incident 183 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,720 there are more UFO encounters in the same region 184 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,200 so just four days before the sighting at West Hall 185 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:30,480 a businessman living in central Victoria by the name of Ron Sullivan 186 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,320 who unfortunately has also recently passed away 187 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,680 he was driving along a rather lonely country road 188 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:48,720 he noticed a strange series of lights appearing in an otherwise very dark paddock 189 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,920 and the lights were constantly moving up and down different colours 190 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,720 but as he was noticing this at that very same instant 191 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,040 the headlights of his car were being drawn off to the right hand side 192 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 in the direction of these lights 193 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,840 and as that happened of course he felt as though 194 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,880 his car was veering off to the right hand side following the headlights if you like 195 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,480 and so he remembers very clearly grappling with the steering wheel 196 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:25,040 moving it to the left to right the car to get it back onto the correct side of the road 197 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:31,680 and as he did so coming very close to colliding with this huge gum tree 198 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,320 that was on the left hand side of the road 199 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:40,080 and then moving off and seeing the lights still there on the right hand side 200 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,760 but collapsing and so the lights collapsed and came down to this point 201 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,800 where they formed this circle and then the circle just vanished 202 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,640 he didn't want to stick around he of course was petrified 203 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,800 he had almost crashed into this huge gum tree 204 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:06,240 industrial chemist and scientist Bill Chalker is also baffled by this case 205 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,080 how do we explain it? 206 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,520 it's as if there was kind of some type of lens effect that 207 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,720 the beam of light from the car headlight was actually bending through 208 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:25,440 how do you get that was there some sort of atmospheric lens that was creating that bend 209 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,760 it just is an unexplainable case in terms of our current fixes 210 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,720 and but coming from a very very impressive witness 211 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,200 the following morning after this bizarre event at Birks Flat 212 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,120 Ron Sullivan had his car checked and there was nothing mechanically wrong 213 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,680 I think it was the 7th of April so the day after the Westall incident 214 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,160 he heard a news story about a young driver from Melbourne 215 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,760 having crashed his car at Birks Flat having driven off the road 216 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,200 and crashed into a gum tree on the side of the road and having been killed 217 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,120 well Ron was very moved by this story of course 218 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:13,040 and in his own mind he put the two objects the two incidents I should say together 219 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:22,640 Ron returned to the scene and to his horror it was the same gum tree he had nearly driven into 220 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,480 coincidence you decide 221 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,080 and one of the reasons he could so clearly say that was because 222 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,360 they did a walk into the paddock off to the right hand side of the road 223 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,000 and discovered a circular depression in the paddock 224 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,560 where something apparently had come down had displaced the soil 225 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:50,960 and formed a circular pattern in the soil in that paddock 226 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,760 was this the same circular pattern seen in Joy's photo 227 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,000 taken at the Westall High School landing site 228 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,840 and so he often described it as if it was a magnetic effect 229 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,880 because that's how it gave the impression because as he observed it 230 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,520 the lights came out of his headlights and then bent towards the object 231 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,720 apparently sitting illuminated in the paddock 232 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,520 now that case I looked at it in a lot of detail 233 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,360 going to the site taking soil tests none of it seems to show up anything 234 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,720 other than the fact that there was a mark found at the site 235 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 when you start to dig down into the local area you start to find that 236 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,640 the historically were rather strange sightings of objects coming out of 237 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,480 water bodies like dams ghost light type sightings in the location as if 238 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:49,120 Burke's flat got the local reputation of being haunted by strange light phenomena 239 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,800 not only through the early parts of the 20th century 240 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,960 but also into the 19th century as well so it had a long 241 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,000 tradition associated with strange phenomena 242 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,520 here is this very compelling sort of sighting 243 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,560 since his research journey began in 2005 244 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Shane Ryan has been hunting for any document that showed there was an official investigation into what happened 245 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,320 the honest truth is that since the event happened in 1966 246 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:31,200 not a single word has ever been said or written publicly officially by any government agency 247 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:38,320 including agencies that you would think would have had some sort of interest in an incident like this 248 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:44,400 and according to the witnesses seem to have very much had an interest in the incident at the time 249 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:52,400 such as the air force and of course like a good researcher I've made various freedom of information 250 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:59,440 applications to the government agencies and all of those have resulted in pretty much 251 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,920 a nil response no documents found 252 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,240 neither the Australian nor the Victorian governments have ever commented on the incident 253 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,200 yes I think the Australian government it's about time that they admitted that you know 254 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,720 there was there have been sightings and there've been things that have been covered up you know 255 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,200 that would that'd be good to even just hear that you know they don't have to say who or where or 256 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,240 what but they could say look over the years as a matter of national security we haven't 257 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:39,040 wanted to talk about these things and they've been covered up 258 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:52,320 I don't know if it was extraterrestrial or extratemporal or extradimensional 259 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,560 and the jury is still out as to what it was we conclude that it was something extraordinary 260 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:06,640 not something prosaic but we remain open keep an open mind because the answers still haven't 261 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:13,360 been found and that's why it's a mystery and who doesn't love a good mystery 262 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:27,280 and I look I feel actually quite privileged in a way that I have had this experience because of the 263 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:34,560 the friendship we have with the other people that were there at the time we feel that we're all part 264 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,400 of something a little bit special 265 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:59,040 the Australian government has no plans to bring their citizens out of the dark anytime soon 266 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,040 they have said they're not looking into UFOs and have no plans to do so 267 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:12,640 in the Australian Parliament RAAF Chief Air Marshal Mel Hubfield stated as much 268 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:21,040 regarding UAPs in an Australian airspace context and there's no air force led task force 269 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:27,680 that looks into this phenomenon they seem to be at odds with many other countries around the world 270 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,600 in Brazil UFOs are on the top of the government agenda 271 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,960 and in the US the Pentagon has declared UFOs officially under investigation 272 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,440 to establish a dedicated office to oversee processing analysis and reporting of UAP related data 273 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Australian UFO researcher Grant LeVac wants the government to be accountable 274 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,120 I want Australia to be at the forefront with our US ally and other countries around the world 275 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:02,800 that are now taking this topic seriously Grant claims his interest is more than just being curious 276 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:08,720 about what's out there also from a potential national security threat perspective not just 277 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,280 our military aviators but also our civilian aviators as well Harvard University is also taking 278 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:21,200 things very seriously they are repurposing a cosmos gazing telescope to look for any 279 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,800 uninvited visitors into Earth's airspace eminent physicist professor Avi Loeb is 280 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:33,120 lead on this project called Galileo one research avenue of the Galileo project is 281 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,920 to study unidentified and real phenomena that the government talks about in our case is whether 282 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,880 we are unique as an intelligent species or maybe there is a smarter kid on our cosmic 283 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:53,280 blood professor Loeb believes it's up to government to collect data and report on the data it's not 284 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,520 up to them to solve the phenomena given that the government reports about the incidents with 285 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:06,720 objects whose nature is unclear it's it's now the in the realm of science to figure out what 286 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,480 that means because the government is not a scientific organization it seems Australian 287 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,480 scientists won't be afforded the privilege of their government collecting data for the things to 288 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,840 monitor this idea is that we should cut their budget by 50 percent the Australian people will 289 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:31,040 have to rely on foreign governments for answers next on close encounters down under the man who 290 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:39,440 can summon UFOs every day and every night I have had contacts and where in the world does he claim 291 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:47,760 his best for contact experiences the Victoria area is a hotbed overall for UFO contact in the sky and 292 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,200 even on the ground and you won't believe why 293 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,960 from the coast of Florida to Coney Island New York 294 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:17,440 to the Californian desert and finally in Melbourne Australia our next investigation 295 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,760 focuses on the extraordinary skills of a former New York firefighter 296 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,680 who believes he is in constant contact with UAPs and extraterrestrials around the world 297 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,880 my name is Andrew Rasowitz 298 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:41,520 after having his first UFO experience as a teenager working for the U.S. Coast Guard 299 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,040 Andrew knew he was somehow connected to the extraterrestrial world 300 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,960 12 years later one man helped him harness his special abilities 301 00:26:53,360 --> 00:27:05,680 in 2011 I fly out to the desert in California to meet Dr. Stephen Greer because he was holding 302 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:13,840 what he calls ambassador to the universe training classes it's a week long expedition 303 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:24,000 where about 20 to 30 people get together and he claims that through meditation in a group 304 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,560 we could proactively communicate with these UFOs and the occupants that are on board 305 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:42,640 and make them appear from that moment on every day and every night I have had contacts 306 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:52,960 since 2011 till today this special communication is called CE5 or a close encounter of the fifth 307 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,760 kind where through meditation you can summon extraterrestrial life 308 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,880 Mary Rodwell is a qualified counselor who specializes in treating people who've had UFO 309 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:14,240 encounters she explains Andrew's gift so what is CE5 it's a protocol it's a way of asking these 310 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:21,280 intelligences out there would they show themselves and be filmed or have some kind of interaction 311 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:30,400 and the way that many do that is they'll go to a reasonably isolated place they will sit and meditate 312 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:37,600 and do you know maybe a visualization or a meditation of some kind so they're in a frequency 313 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,880 that they can then send out this intent to whoever might be around because you know they're 314 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,800 everywhere and you may not know they're there when Andrew moved to Australia after mastering the CE5 315 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:58,320 technique his UFO encounters became more frequent and more intense one night I was outside and I was 316 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:06,880 looking in the north direction and it was just I believe it was just after sundown and I saw a 317 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:16,880 satellite coming down but I had a feeling that something else was there now what also happens 318 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:27,680 I look in one part of the sky I do not sky search I do not spin around my head like the 319 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:35,840 exorcist and look around the whole sky looking for an object I look in one spot and in that one 320 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:46,000 spot I meditate I set my intention on that spot and then all of a sudden an object zips across the 321 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:56,000 sky oh there comes another one look at that holy look at that and this thing rips and moves at such 322 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:04,240 an irregular pattern it wasn't normal you know a satellite just glides this wasn't gliding it was 323 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:13,120 this thing was vibrating up and down up and down this thing is just so fast and so irregular 324 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:21,920 wow look at the speed on that I hadn't seen that and I don't think I've ever gotten anything 325 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:31,200 like that on recording ever before so I trusted that feeling inside I had a feeling in my heart 326 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:38,320 that something was there waiting for me so I continued to just trust that feeling and the 327 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:50,960 object appeared boom it was there look at that wow every time I watch I relive that emotion that's 328 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,640 coming through that thrill it's like being a kid on Christmas morning when you're opening the presence 329 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:05,200 it's that feeling I get every time I make contact the tips of my fingers will tingle same thing with 330 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:12,800 my toes our chief investigator and director of MUFON Roger Stangevich has looked at Andrew's footage 331 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:22,320 this footage was taken in country victoria in 2020 so you can see here this is an unusual footage of 332 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:29,600 of an unidentified here because it's it's the focus is not to infinity so the craft is the size 333 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,160 that it is because you can see the trees in the foreground are not out of focus and it's it's 334 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:42,240 actually traveling not in a straight line it's far too big to be a satellite it doesn't look 335 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:50,000 anything man-made it's not flashing it's a bit unusual to see something like that in the night 336 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:59,360 sky that size and the speeds slow it's just moving rather slowly there's no sound in comparison to 337 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:06,240 the plane that went by it's not the moon it's not bright enough to be the moon and it is moving you 338 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,440 can see it moving relative to the branches of the trees it's not reflections of anything 339 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,400 it's not lens flare no one can be projecting anything because it's clear sky so it's not a 340 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,000 laser it's not a flash I can't find any prosaic explanation for this particular object here 341 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:31,280 I've classified that as an unknown Andrew is used to seeing unknowns 342 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920 he knows encounters can happen at the most unexpected times 343 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:43,440 I don't normally take my camera in my pocket when I'm walking my dog on the beach 344 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:50,720 I had a feeling something was gonna happen the thing was pink and it did what we call powered up 345 00:32:51,680 --> 00:33:01,680 oh the moly what is that it got really really bright it illuminated warm 346 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:09,680 it illuminated up it got really really bright a flash really bright warm a quick acknowledgement 347 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:16,560 just saying hi boom I could have taken a baseball and thrown a baseball and hit this object there's 348 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:25,680 nothing in the area and a pink ball of light just appeared when they illuminate and they and they 349 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:32,320 light they look huge they look gigantic sometimes they look like they're the size of a beach ball 350 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,840 or even you know the size of just a vehicle a car but when they come close to you 351 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:48,960 sometimes they can change from the size of what looks like a car or a beach ball and they get 352 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:56,880 close to you they are the size of a tick-teck if my dog is threatened or something is around 353 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,880 she doesn't like she'll growl when these things are around and they've come really close to us 354 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,240 she's silent as a whisper I've seen her look at them she'll look right at them 355 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,240 and she doesn't make a noise I know I said those things are good they have a good intent 356 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,640 because if they didn't my dog would be yapping at them 357 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:27,040 Andrew's had UFO experiences all over the world but he rates Victoria as one of the best places 358 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:36,400 for contact I would say that the Victoria area is a hotbed overall for UFO contact in the sky and 359 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:44,320 even on the ground I've seen shadow figures walking on the ground I've seen UFOs come down 360 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,560 I've seen that on the beach so they're doing it because they feel safe here and if they didn't 361 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:56,000 feel safe they wouldn't be doing it here they'd be doing it somewhere else so it's because of the good 362 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,880 climate overall of the people that are here we have good solid people here and that's why they'll 363 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:10,880 show up here but some people are more cynical than others people still judge you they still say 364 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:17,760 you're crazy they still will turn on Netflix or war the worlds or these negative type films 365 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:28,960 and they want to sensationalize UFOs and aliens but the reality is if anyone would like to sit 366 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:36,080 outside with me at night and see what really is going on their perception would change instantly 367 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:44,560 and they would see that Hollywood is just Hollywood movies and the stigma should not be what it is 368 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,440 it's actually the exact opposite 369 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:10,000 next on close encounters down under a man there's either UFOs or ghosts above our house 370 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:17,440 his sister and she said they're out to the south of our house and an hour-long UFO display they would shoot out into the sky 371 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:36,000 our final investigation moves from the city to the country 372 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,120 Bernsdale in the east of victoria 373 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,240 it's a gateway to the majestic victorian alps but also sits on the edge of the beautiful gibbsland lakes 374 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,040 is it the wide open space that attracts UFOs here 375 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:04,080 my name is ben ho i live here in Bernsdale east gibbsland country victoria 376 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,560 Ben has had a lifelong interest in UFOs after two intense encounters Ben was determined to 377 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,040 understand as much as he could about the phenomenon 378 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:27,680 he is now a UFO investigator but his sister was of a different mindset 379 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:39,200 until 2015 so this is a story and it's a ripper i was home here and my sister rings me 380 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:46,320 and my sister lives about 15 minutes away from me out on her own farm and she rings me up and she's 381 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:55,040 distressed and excited and she says to me Ben there's either UFOs or ghosts above our house 382 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,360 now if my sister says that to you you can take it to the bank she is as straight as an arrow 383 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:08,400 has no interest in anything to do with the paranormal no flights of fancy whatsoever 384 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,640 and she said they're they're out to the south of our house there's a whole heap of them and 385 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:20,720 they're moving across the sky so i jumped in the car and i drove 386 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,480 drive across to her house in about seven minutes which would normally take you probably 387 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,960 probably about 15 at least so i got there in record time to her house and i came in the driveway 388 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:38,160 and i came around the back of the house and sure enough about probably not much more than i would 389 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,480 say a baby a length of a football field out above their paddocks were these objects and they 390 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:54,560 would sit there and they would dart instantly across and they moved about 600 meters to 800 meters 391 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:00,720 in terms of distance and they shot straight across then they shot up again and shot back again 392 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,560 then they would divide and then so one would divide into two or three and then they would shoot back 393 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:15,360 and forth across the sky and they would move from point a to point b with with just cow it was like 394 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:20,560 that it wasn't like a putting the accelerator down and you know we're going faster it went from 395 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:28,240 standing still to to instant point and stopped and then it would go back again and then it would 396 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:32,800 divide and there would be one two and even three and then that they would shoot out into the sky 397 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:40,400 and they're all darting back and forth we watched it for an hour we tried to photograph it and we 398 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,920 tried to video it but iPhones were not picking it up because they were not brightly illuminated and 399 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,360 they had fuzzy sort of outlines around them this is where the dimensionality comes into it and it 400 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:58,000 comes into an even bigger way so they had a kind of a fuzzy um that they had a fuzzy ill defined 401 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:07,200 outline which which is a an aspect of some UFO reports and then they all lined up in a line 402 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:16,720 together they flashed bright bright light flash and then they were gone my thoughts were what was 403 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:24,240 this what had we what had we seen these were objects in the sky not not lights not lit up 404 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:30,400 they were about as bright as a cloud on a moonlit night so they were kind of like a silvery color 405 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,840 but not illuminated you could not photograph it with or video it we tried to do that and we're 406 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,240 looking for natural explanations there's guys with torches down the road you know all that's 407 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:45,680 nothing like that made any sense to it at all and then when they all lined up in a in a horizontal 408 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,640 line across the sky one brilliant flash of light from all of them and they were gone 409 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:57,280 scientist and UFO expert bill chalker agrees that UFO experiences often defy explanation 410 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:05,040 and sometimes even the known laws of physics the overall impression one gains from i guess a 411 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,880 surface viewpoint of a lot of these kind of close encounter type sightings is that they appear to be 412 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,640 nuts and bolts sometimes but then the more you dig down at a lot of these sightings it gives 413 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,680 you the impression that you're dealing with something far stranger that seems seemingly outside 414 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,440 of our understanding of physics you know you you're getting into the cutting edge of i don't 415 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,800 know dimensional physics and that kind of stuff and therefore it's a very interesting area to 416 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:39,920 trawl through particularly if you're an advanced physicist yeah this is kind of an interesting 417 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,800 stamping ground because people seem to be having experiences that interact with these kind of 418 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,760 these kind of diverse domains and and so it's an area that warrants a lot of serious scientific 419 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,000 attention and it's something that a lot of people particularly in a scientific domain are starting 420 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:01,280 to play catch up with it was a very very much a what i would call something that seemed to be playing 421 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,840 with the playing with reality this was a different experience where where these things were were 422 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:14,400 moving with pinpoint speed stopping interacting with each other lining up blinking with a massive 423 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:24,720 bridal show of light and then off for ben this was a once in a lifetime experience you could go out 424 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:30,960 and you could look at the night sky night after night for an entire month and see nothing but 425 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,520 satellites the international space station and a couple of planets wandering around you could do 426 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:42,080 that quite easily this is not how the phenomenon works phenomenon appears when the phenomenon 427 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:49,280 wishes to appear and you just have to be lucky enough to be in that spot at that time and that's 428 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,560 why i feel like well how come people don't see UFOs how come one man saw it or two people saw it or 429 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,800 or or those people how come other people didn't see it remember to always look up because you never 430 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,920 know what might be looking down 431 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:41,920 oh 432 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,140 you